Five Years

Dec. 4th, 2010 09:58 pm
Yesterday was the five year anniversary of [livejournal.com profile] mrw42 and my commitment to spend our lives together. Five years ago we were in a hotel in Austin at the end of a visit to friends there. Margaret knew that I was looking at making some changes in my relationships; she was concerned about what I wanted to do. She was delighted to learn that I'd realized I always wanted her and my life and I was overjoyed to learn that she left the same way. Shortly before we had to leave Austin, we discussed when we wanted to actually make a commitment to each other. There's no time like the present and lacking any reason to delay, we made a commitment then. She'd already talked to Kevin about how she felt and about the possibility of making a commitment. We didn't have much time to celebrate: Margaret needed to catch a plane for a business trip and I was staying in Austin. I spent the rest of the day bubbling over with joy inside while trying to focus on a difficult conversation with a friend and later on designing some extensions to IPsec.

That began (or perhaps continued) what has been a five-year journey of wonder and exploration. We worked to understand what our commitment meant to each other and then braced ourselves for the reactions of others. For the most part the reaction of our friends and loved ones started a wonderful trend: when you approach those you care about with happiness and joy, they reflect it back! We were nervous about how people would take things, but for the most part people had a few questions and then shared our happiness and joy. Not everyone has been comfortable with our relationship, but things have gone much more smoothely than expected.

A year later we were ready to stand in front of our friends and profess our love and commitment to each other. Again, we were nervous about how tha would go. We spent a lot of time exploring what it meant to us, and comparing it to other things. That was valuable for us, but it was yet another example that for the most part, openness, honesty and happiness works.

A year later our relationship continued to grow as we decided to have a baby together. Having Zoe and having Margaret as the mother of my child are two of the best things in my life.

For me, these five years have been an important growing experience as I've learned what it's been like to be part of a family, to be a father and to support your lovers through their life. Especially recently, I am appreciating how wonderful it is to have Margaret as a friend. I've always known that for myself, but over the last year I've gotten to watch her as she's been a wonderful friend to other people she cares deeply about. That's given me a new appreciation for how lucky I am!

Things have been rough at times. There's been a lot to learn and a lot to adjust to. I'm still struggling to figure out what I want and how to balance time. However, right now, I couldn't be happier. Throughout our relationship I've had the kind of deep love that truly allows people to grow beyond themselves. I look forward to the years to come.

Last weekend, I spoke at a polyamory seminar organized by some friends in Washington state. It probably wasn't worth going out there for a one-day seminar, but going out to see friends, introduce them to Zoe and attend the seminar definitely made a worthwhile trip. Discussions of group relationships rather than multiple pairwise relationships featured more prominently in the seminar than they tend to in poly discussions in the Boston community. I'm not sure if that was sample size or a different emphasis in what communities are looking for.

The seminar opened with a cute icebreaker game. Everyone got a card describing their relationship constraints and had to find people who had compatible constraints. Then the resulting relationship graphs were drawn on the board. (There was one fully connected sub-graph and one other network; this was a factor both of the cards and of a couple of decisions people made.) What I found most interesting is that everyone (including myself) found the icebreaker very effective and positive. Amusingly though, when I try to describe lessons one might draw from the experience they're fairly negative. I could use that game to illustrate STD risk, or to illustrate how in poly relationships, your life can be influenced significantly by people several steps away from you. However, I don't think anyone there was thinking about it that way, at least not as their primary focus.

The discussion was well worth participating in and was of high quality. Multiple groups there had experience with parenting, dealing with families, communications, and the other sorts of issues that tend to get discussed at poly panels. I found one part of the communication discussion really fascinating. The speaker was talking about not drudging up old examples of behavior when discussing a problem. I completely get why this is important; when your past mistakes become a burden of ever-lasting inadequacy, it destroys the ability to feel that you are a respected and valued partner in a relationship. However I found myself in conflict with the advice because pattern analysis is a critical part of how I approach problem solving. If someone is in a hurry and doesn't get a chance to clean up after themselves, then I'm happy to pitch in and help out. Some day I'll need help too. However if someone is rarely able to find the time to clean up after themselves, then it's worth discussing. Either they need to adjust to what they are doing or I need to change my expectations. I need to think more about how to balance these concerns. I definitely appreciate discussions that give me something to think about.

My friend who organized the event did a great job! She is good at organizing conferences.r

It's unusual to have a three-parent family. In the past when I've thought about this I've focused on things inside the family. However since Zoe's birth I've been examining how our family interacts with the outside—doctors, friends, the government, etc. As I was starting to write this entry I was thinking about the problems we have run into and are likely to run into. However as I began to plan what I wanted to say I realized that things have worked out much better than I expected and that I'm incredibly happy. We keep running into cases where people just accept us as who we claim to be. Many friends writing back messages of congratulations after Zoe was born made it clear that they were happy for all of this. On one hand, it doesn't take much to be inclusive in a note of congratulations. On the other hand even in several cases where I don't think the people involved were familiar with what has been going on with my family, it was clear they were quite sincere. I really appreciate it when people just accept what's going on. We've received similarly good responses from Zoe's doctor. He was a bit confused who everyone was when we all showed up, he asked, and he has been happy to treat us as a family of three parents and was very supportive when he needed to give us a referral to a specialist. The hospital staff were also supportive.

Unfortunately we've run into a number of situations where laws and policies get in the way. You can only list two parents on a birth certificate. In terms of having legal guardians, a kid can only have two parents. None of this is surprising. However it is still painful to have to pick someone as the odd person out. It also means that we'll have to have significant complexity going forward to make sure that if a question arises about who can take Zoe out of school or who can get medical care for her, we have the necessary legal instruments in place.

We had a particularly painful situation at the hospital. The mother and one other person are allowed to check the baby out of the nursery or be with her while they were doing tests and examinations. They would not allow both Kevin and I to be with Zoe. I understand how this policy developed and that there is significant concern about making sure babies are not taken by unauthorized parties.

So far, I at least have not run into anyone other than my parents who has been particularly judgmental about our family. My parents are coming along nicely though; my mom likes to be a grandmother. I'm sure that I know people who are confused or disapprove. However there seem to be fewer than I expected and many who do disapprove seem willing to let me live my own life.

It's been a while since I've written about what is going on. By some counts I haven't done so since February. Things are going very well; I continue to be as happy as I've ever been. One really exciting bit of news is that Margaret and I have decided to celebrate our commitment to each other with our close friends and family this December. We are not making any new commitments, but we are sharing and affirming our existing commitments. This is turning out to be one part formal event planning, one part figuring out what symbols to use to help people understand and one part marketing/message control. O, yeah, with joy, excitement, nervousness and worry thrown in. We finally got done telling all the people we needed to tell before discussing it in public. Here are two previously locked entries on the subject:

In other life news, work is hugely busy, but is quite enjoyable. I'm liking my new boss a lot. However he understands my job more than my previous boss and thus asks me to do things. This is good except that I am hugely over committed and need to engage in load shedding over the next months.

In my personal life, I'm having success meeting new people and building relationships. My last couple of parties have been enjoyable for those who attended. The focus of those who attend has shifted somewhat. I miss some of my old friends but also am happy with the people I am finding time to see.

In more local news, this weekend was wonderful. It started Thursday night. Margaret and I went to choose rings and to confirm our selection of a venue. Friday had a minor interruption of work. I worked a normal length day, but it was uneventful. I got home and got together with [livejournal.com profile] bouncingleaf for a delightful evening. The next morning, Margaret and I finished dealing with the first round of mailings to tell people about our event. Then, we got together with [livejournal.com profile] chardin and [livejournal.com profile] eirl who were in town. We had a great fun-filled day.

In planning an event to acknowledge our commitment, Margaret and I are constantly running up against difficult decisions trying to create an accurate perception of the importance of the event and of our relationship. In the last post, I discussed what we were trying to accomplish at a high level. Here, I'd like to muse for a bit about the more specific goals. People need to feel that the event is important enough that they are willing to fly across the country to attend. On the other hand, I want the primary focus of the event to be casual interaction between friends. Over the years, I've found that sort of interaction is how you build and maintain strong communities of caring friends: create a space where people come and can interact with each other in a comfortable setting; provide them a few focuses of commonality; and a community will begin to grow. [livejournal.com profile] lasofia was the first person I knew who intentionally did this. I know for me and I think for Margaret that this has been an important
part of how I got to where I am today and how I had the necessary support to try something as risky (and rewarding) as getting involved with Margaret. So, while I realize that people from around the country are not going to develop friendships in an evening, at least as a symbolic component, I want this casual interaction to be an important focus of the event. Of course, one of the most powerful ways of signaling importance is to create formality or ceremony. That creates an apparent although hopefully manageable conflict with casual interaction. Another potentially conflicting goal is the desire for people to walk away thinking that the event meets their expectations; we don't just want people to feel that they have attended a party. Probably I'm looking for something more like, they feel that they have met others who are important to Margaret and me and have helped us celebrate our lives together.

As I mentioned in the previous post, we don't want to give the incorrect impression we're getting
married. However, we don't want to downplay the importance of the event or of our commitment to each other. There are a lot of factors that could create the impression that our relationship is not as important as a marriage. We're not living together or forming a family. However the commitments we do have are as important as a marriage. Finding a way to make this clear has been challenging. That part is hard to explain even to a lot of people from the poly community. My relationship with Margaret seems to follow the typical secondary relationship model on the surface. Besides both of us disliking the term, it typically implies that the secondary relationship is somehow less than a primary relationship. Les can mean things like will be selected against in a resource conflict. The poly community seems to understand the concept of multiple primary relationships although the examples I've seen suggest that's more about a group of people living
together than what Margaret and I are talking about. Of course, there is no recognized lexicon: I've seen a discussion of tertiary relationships today (whatever they are) and definitions of both primary and secondary relationships that fit what Margaret and I are doing.

On top of everything else there is a desire not to over-share or to spend time telling people details they're not interested in or don't want to know. I think all of this is possible to balance in an explanation; I think we can even do it. However it has proven tricky to think about and consider.

In December of 2005, Margaret and I made
a lasting commitment to each other. Approaching a year later, we
finally understand what that means well enough to explain it to
others, to ask our friends to support us and to publicly acknowledge
it. We're going to do that this December. I've decided to try and
write about this because we haven't found much to draw on when looking
for other examples of what we're trying to do. I think the world
would be a better place if people involved in non-traditional
relationships shared their experience. Then, those contemplating
doing something similar could go into the experience with more
information both about parts that worked for people and about the
risks and challenges.

So, what are we trying to do? We want to
publicly acknowledge our commitment, ask our friends to support us,
and have a celebration. Almost inevitably any discussion of this
quickly turns to what it isn't. Why is there a focus on what it
isn't? I think because there are a lot of wrong ideas that people
could come away with: they might think that Margaret and Kevin are
having trouble or that I am no longer looking for life partners. I
also think people struggle to find metaphors that allow them to
understand what we're doing in terms of something they are familiar
with. It's easy to latch on to the idea of life-long commitment and
conclude that Margaret and I are getting married. We're not. However
that does seem to be the closest metaphor, and even Margaret and I
find we're drawing from the symbology and shared understanding of
marriage. We've tried other starting points: as an example, we've
tried describing this as something closer to engagement except more
permanent. At least for me, that really didn't work. I've found
relying on marriage as a metaphor to be a bit frightening. It's
something a lot of people (including me) view as sacred. so, there's
a question of whether what we're doing is important enough to be
associated with marriage, or whether we are somehow misusing those sacred symbols.

But whatever starting point we choose to try and describe this to
people, we are doing something different so we need to help people
understand the differences between what is actually going on and the
initial starting point. Will people end up understanding the
important parts? Will they end up thinking we are crazy or freaks?
There's also the question of what to do about the people who will
inevitably think what we are doing is wrong. This ends up with a long
discussion of the positive and negative effects of social norms and
what you should think about before going against these norms. I may
come back to that in a future entry. How much energy is it reasonable
to expect people to put into understanding your confusing, complicated
non-traditional life?

Another huge question is whether people
will understand how important this is to us. One of the challenges in
putting together this event will be correctly conveying the importance
so that people will come and so that they will approach it with the
right frame of mind. However we also want them to walk away feeling
that we've done something that matches that level of importance. It
would be easier to do that if we were getting married because people have a good understanding of the importance of marriage. Even if the ceremony is casual, people understand it is important to the participants. But for the
actual event, we're going to be creating something new. We don't want
something religious. Hopefully we will come up with something that
works for us and for our friends.

I think that sets the stage for
what we're trying to accomplish and for why it is challenging and for
a lot of the questions that have been going through our minds. Don't
forget that on top of this, there is the normal event planning
questions: how much should we spend, where should we hold it, who
should be invited, how formal? At one level, I'm really happy that
I'm doing this. At another, I wonder what I've gotten myself into.

A couple weeks ago, I was reading an LJ entry about the importance of being sensitive when seeking support from a mutual friend of both parties in a troubled romantic relationship. The entry then went on to describe how the situation is particularly difficult when the mutual friend is one member of a primary couple and the romantic trouble is between another primary and that primary's secondary. I was surprised at how negatively I viewed parts of the commentary. I was particularly surprised because if I removed the description of primary/secondary dynamics and just read it as a description of why it is particularly difficult when you are drawing on your lover's other lover for support with romance difficulties, I completely agreed with what was said.

I know that I don't like the term secondary, but I didn't realize that I had that strong of a reaction. I'll admit that fully 50% of my problem with the term was a initial misunderstanding about what the poly community means by secondary relationship. However even as I have grown to understand what is meant, I've had a deep-seated negative reaction. I think I'd feel more comfortable being described as someone's fuckbuddy than as someone's secondary. I don't particularly see myself in a relationship based on sex without emotional connection, but if I were, fuckbuddy is at least starkly accurate. I think that if most people from the poly community considered my relationship with Margaret, they would describe me as her secondary. However the term (and that way of thinking about things) doesn't suit either of us. As I began to consider my reaction I noticed the following link in the original entry to a site on being a secondary. That page is wonderful both because it does an excellent job of showing the reasonableness of core concepts behind a secondary relationship and showing why I find the term so problematic. The term secondary relationship emphasizes the limitations rather than the nature of the relationship. This is bad for the secondary because it is too easy to think of yourself as less important and to trap yourself into the belief that you and your needs don't matter. This is bad for any primary partners because it focuses so much on safety through boundaries that it is easy to forget the importance of compromise and love. If you're trying to sell a loving relationship, and you find you need to write a Bill of Rights expressing basic human dignity and respect in terms of your relationship concept, you need to rethink your marketing and message control. Terminology does matter and it influences how people think about things.

This introspection was useful to me for another reason. I can completely understand the appeal of the concept behind secondary relationships even if I don't like the term. A lot of what I do even fits within that concept. However for myself, I cannot reconcile hard boundaries like the idea that if it becomes necessary to choose between the primary and secondary then you choose the primary with my concept of building a loving relationship. Conflict is hard, but I have not found it improved by hard boundaries. I can see commitments like always agreeing to support your family and I can see how such commitments could come very close to being these hard boundaries. There is a key difference though that I'm still working through. Anyway, this was a wonderful introspective experience into what I'm looking for and how I'm going to view my relationships with others.

I wrote about painful decisions choosing between people. An anonymous reader in California said that I had the wrong focus. She points out that it's really the hurting people that you care about that is hard, not the time management. I've been thinking about that for a bit trying to decide whether I was thinking about this from the wrong standpoint.

At one level, it's absolutely correct that hurting those you care about is the really painful part about getting close to people. The comment goes on to claim that it is the mismatched expectations that cause the pain. I'll certainly agree that the pain I am discussing tends to happen when there are mismatched expectations. I also agree that is incredibly difficult. However I don't think that is specific to poly: it is a basic consequence of relationships and getting close to people that when you are unable to give someone you care about something that is important to them, you are both hurt. I don't think I'm new to that though; I think I've been dealing with that pain most of my life. While it is not easy, it is not surprising.

The new pain here is the realization that even when there is overlap in expectations and desires, the resource management (mostly time) may make it impossible to actually realize these shared desires. I simply do not have the resources to make commitments to all those who I'd like to make commitments to. Now you can look at this as me not actually desiring to make the commitments after I've looked at what resources I have to offer and thus reducing to the problem of hurting those I care about. I don't see it that way and it certainly doesn't feel that way. I find it qualitatively more difficult to decline something that I want than to decline something that just isn't right for me. Now the comment definitely has a point: the aggregate effect is what makes this all difficult. However, I do think that resource management is a very important focus for thinking about the situation.

I think this also gets at Leaf's question. I was not actually contemplating changing anything. I think the possible changes would be to avoid commitment as I discussed in the first article; to make commitments as they become possible without thinking about the future and my long-term goals; something close to monogamy; or to avoid getting close to people unless I somehow already knew that our expectations and resource availability would line up. Acknowledging that life will be painful and that pain is part of the price you pay for the wonderful parts of closeness seems like a far healthier option.

Time management for poly relationships is hard. Everyone who has thought about being involved with multiple people realizes this; it may be the single thing the poly community can actually agree on. I thought I knew what that meant and I thought I was doing a reasonable job. On the immediate level of balancing time and actually seeing people I think I was.

Recently I've been thinking about long-term commitments—about what I want going forward and about what relationships make sense. I guess one approach might be to avoid long-term commitment: spend time on each relationship and allow the priorities to float as they will. If a relationship doesn't seem to get enough time then perhaps it should fade away. Perhaps but that approach is not for me. I don't see how you would build families under such an approach nor how you would work through hard times in a relationship. So long-term commitment is desirable. Clearly there are a finite and small number of commitments you can have just as
there are a finite small number of relationships you can be in. So again a time and resource management problem arises.

I've been pondering how to manage this issue. Interestingly, I have not really wanted to do a bunch of research into how others have solved the problem. I may do that now, but I felt it important to find my own solution first. The results have been painful. First, I'll take a look at how this works in a sort of idealized model of a monogamous relationship. Typically people spend some period of time trying to see how compatible they are. Dating serves an important winnowing function: is this the person I want to spend the rest of my life with? At least if you are looking for a life partner, you eventually move on to something like engagement or move on to another relationship.

Of course there is some of the same going on in a poly relationship. It's always possible to find out that you cannot stand someone you're dating. But things are more complicated. You can
determine that the relationship has limits: you might find that you would never want to form a family with someone. Just because there are limits doesn't mean that the relationship should end. Instead I find I'm faced with painful decisions. I need to balance commitments based on comparisons against existing and potential future relationships. This is good for us is no longer sufficient reason to commit to something; it is impossible to avoid comparing to other priorities. For me this has been very painful because there are some ways in which I am not able to just treat each relationship as its own experience.

Inherently, there is going to be a lot of getting close to people, and making tough decisions about how long things should last and about balancing an ever decreasing set of resources. But you cannot let the possibility of future pain limit how close you get to people. Doing so would make it impossible to discover exactly the sorts of relationships I'm looking for. So, I'm faced with
a life of growing as close to people as I can only to find that there is a probability of painful decisions and realizations at the end. I think this is the point where a lot of people would admit that time management really is too hard and perhaps a less painful lifestyle is in order. That's just not me: I could not give up the ability to continue to grow close and to love.

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